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Meeting Notes 2026-01-12

by André Grüneberg

Dear all, These are our meeting notes from today's meeting: Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Tim, Maria, Marian, Carlos Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/12%E2%80%9001%E2%80%902026-Note…> - André: Presentation at 42nd Euro-IX forum about translation <https://www.euro-ix.net/smedia/filer_private/e5/95/e5958f23-b80b-4559-94bd-…> - Daniel: Presentation at 42nd Euro-IX forum about "route server next-hop translation" <https://www.euro-ix.net/smedia/filer_private/bd/c3/bdc325eb-36fe-4f01-a73a-…> - André: Submitted proposal for RS workshop for more details on translation - André: Huawei promised to send a NE8000 M8 for testing - Maria: Negotiated Capabilities information in filters *maybe* in Bird 3.3 (to avoid warnings if extended next-hop not enabled by peer) - Marian: TCP-AO currently has higher priority (not in stock Debian kernels) - RS Workshop: Tim, André, Ondrej and maybe Marian to join Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/12%E2%80%9001%E2%80%902026-Note…> Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/12%E2%80%9001%E2%80%902026-Note…> 2026-02-09 14:00 UTC / 14:00 GMT / 15:00 CET / 16:00 EET -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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Updated invitation with note: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 12 Jan 2026 15:00 - 16:00 (CET) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated with a note: "Due to year end challenges. :)" Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 12 Jan 2026 ⋅ 15:00 – 16:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz Christopher Rössler arnold.nipper(a)swissix.ch anton.rieger(a)de-cix.net aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Meeting notes 06‐10‐2025

by André Grüneberg

Hi all, These are the notes from today's working group meeting: Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Chris Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Chris: BCIX has enabled opportunistic RFC8950 on IPv6 route servers; 2 peers were sending IPv4 full table (introduce IXP Manager tag to disable IPv4 AF selectively) - André: Alice-LG 6.2.0 (Go) and lightwatcher 0.9.9 (Rust) have been released -- which properly support dual stack and RFC8950 ("single" table only) - André: EPF presentation <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/EPF25%20RFC8…> together with Marian; some people offered help with Huawei -> no results yet - Axu: Also no results from Huawei - André: Presentation (of almost same content) at BCIX round table - Axu: Presentation at BalticNOG; was hyped by previous panel; videos not yet available - André: Draft <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/RFC8950%20Tr…> of ideas for translation device Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Axu: Prepare slides for VNNOG <https://vnix-nog.vn/en/conference> -- add "how to use RFC8950 in core network" - André/Chris: Create PoC for translation device Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-11-17 14:00 UTC / 14:00 GMT / 15:00 CET / 16:00 EET -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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Meeting notes from today's meeting

by André Grüneberg

19‐05‐2025 Notes Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Chris, Tim, Daniel, Eric Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Daniel: Moritz is not going to join Euro-IX - Daniel: Did not manage to catch Marian - Euro-IX forum: Currently no other presentation than the one submitted by Aleksi; maybe some short-notice changes - André: No changes in Alice-LG as of yet, still in contact with Annika Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Aleksi, Daniel, Marian: Finalize slides for forum Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-07-14 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 CEST / 16:00 EEST -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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Updated invitation with note: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 19 May 2025 15:00 - 16:00 (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated with a note: "As agreed during the meeting on 28 Apr, moved before the forum." Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 19 May 2025 ⋅ 15:00 – 16:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz Christopher Rössler aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Updated invitation with note: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 28 Apr 2025 14:00 - 15:00 (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated with a note: "Moved one-time to one hour earlier due to several members issues to join at original time." Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 28 Apr 2025 ⋅ 14:00 – 15:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz Christopher Rössler aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net Moyaze Shivji View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Synced invitation: RFC8950 working group @ Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday (CET) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This email keeps the event up to date in your calendar. RFC8950 working group Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi mr(a)nix.cz rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

9 months, 1 week

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Synced invitation: RFC8950 working group @ Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This email keeps the event up to date in your calendar. RFC8950 working group Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi mr(a)nix.cz rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net Christopher Rössler ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Minutes of our meeting on 2024-03-10

by André Grüneberg

https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Notes 10‐03‐2025 Notes Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Marian, Mo, Tim, Daniel, Eric, Inrin Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Daniel: sent student work tender draft to mailing list - to be published ~end march - Axu: Met someone interested in DE-CIX R&D projects at DKNOG - Marian: Issue with JunOS 32bit next-hop -> might be fixed with 21.1 or 23.4R2 - Axu: Gave presentation at DKNOG, positive feedback; to be also presented at NetNod, More-IP, Euro-IX forum 42 - Axu: uploaded presentation slides in repo <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/ipv6-only-ix…> - André: Was in contact with Annika regarding Alice-LG support -> major changes necessary - Marian: Short presentation at route server workshop (also at open camp in Slovakia, faculty of informatics in Bratislava university) - Marian: potential use-case in discussion at NIX: advanced DDoS protection Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> - André: catch up with Annika to form a project Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-04-28 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 CEST / 16:00 EEST Best wishes, André -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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RFC8950 with Juniper issue

by Marian Rychtecky

Hi all, short info - we have two ASNs running JunOS 19.4. Even Juniper officially supports RFC 8950 from 17.3R1 on MX and 20.1R1 on QFX (https://lists.ix-f.net/hyperkitty/list/rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net/message/GV…) those networks are struggling to get RFC8950 enabled. Juniper announces "enhanced next-hop" capability, however receiving an IPv4 prefix with two next-hops (local-link and global) will tear down the BGP session. The logged message says "bad nhop len: 32 for afi 1, safi 1" - clearly not expecting two next-hops. I do not have any Juniper to test with and this sounds like an incompatibility with RFC 8950 where both next-hops are expected as per: What are your thoughts on a problem like this? Marian -- Marian Rychtecký NIX.CZ, z.s.p.o. Mahlerovy sady 2699/1 130 00 Praha 3 Česká republika / Czech Republic

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