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Meeting notes 06‐10‐2025

by André Grüneberg

Hi all, These are the notes from today's working group meeting: Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Chris Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Chris: BCIX has enabled opportunistic RFC8950 on IPv6 route servers; 2 peers were sending IPv4 full table (introduce IXP Manager tag to disable IPv4 AF selectively) - André: Alice-LG 6.2.0 (Go) and lightwatcher 0.9.9 (Rust) have been released -- which properly support dual stack and RFC8950 ("single" table only) - André: EPF presentation <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/EPF25%20RFC8…> together with Marian; some people offered help with Huawei -> no results yet - Axu: Also no results from Huawei - André: Presentation (of almost same content) at BCIX round table - Axu: Presentation at BalticNOG; was hyped by previous panel; videos not yet available - André: Draft <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/RFC8950%20Tr…> of ideas for translation device Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Axu: Prepare slides for VNNOG <https://vnix-nog.vn/en/conference> -- add "how to use RFC8950 in core network" - André/Chris: Create PoC for translation device Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-11-17 14:00 UTC / 14:00 GMT / 15:00 CET / 16:00 EET -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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Meeting notes from today's meeting

by André Grüneberg

19‐05‐2025 Notes Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Chris, Tim, Daniel, Eric Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Daniel: Moritz is not going to join Euro-IX - Daniel: Did not manage to catch Marian - Euro-IX forum: Currently no other presentation than the one submitted by Aleksi; maybe some short-notice changes - André: No changes in Alice-LG as of yet, still in contact with Annika Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Aleksi, Daniel, Marian: Finalize slides for forum Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-07-14 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 CEST / 16:00 EEST -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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Updated invitation with note: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 19 May 2025 15:00 - 16:00 (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated with a note: "As agreed during the meeting on 28 Apr, moved before the forum." Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 19 May 2025 ⋅ 15:00 – 16:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz Christopher Rössler aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Updated invitation with note: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 28 Apr 2025 14:00 - 15:00 (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated with a note: "Moved one-time to one hour earlier due to several members issues to join at original time." Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 28 Apr 2025 ⋅ 14:00 – 15:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz Christopher Rössler aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net Moyaze Shivji View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Synced invitation: RFC8950 working group @ Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday (CET) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This email keeps the event up to date in your calendar. RFC8950 working group Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi mr(a)nix.cz rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Synced invitation: RFC8950 working group @ Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This email keeps the event up to date in your calendar. RFC8950 working group Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi mr(a)nix.cz rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net Christopher Rössler ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Minutes of our meeting on 2024-03-10

by André Grüneberg

https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Notes 10‐03‐2025 Notes Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Marian, Mo, Tim, Daniel, Eric, Inrin Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Daniel: sent student work tender draft to mailing list - to be published ~end march - Axu: Met someone interested in DE-CIX R&D projects at DKNOG - Marian: Issue with JunOS 32bit next-hop -> might be fixed with 21.1 or 23.4R2 - Axu: Gave presentation at DKNOG, positive feedback; to be also presented at NetNod, More-IP, Euro-IX forum 42 - Axu: uploaded presentation slides in repo <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/ipv6-only-ix…> - André: Was in contact with Annika regarding Alice-LG support -> major changes necessary - Marian: Short presentation at route server workshop (also at open camp in Slovakia, faculty of informatics in Bratislava university) - Marian: potential use-case in discussion at NIX: advanced DDoS protection Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> - André: catch up with Annika to form a project Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-04-28 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 CEST / 16:00 EEST Best wishes, André -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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RFC8950 with Juniper issue

by Marian Rychtecky

Hi all, short info - we have two ASNs running JunOS 19.4. Even Juniper officially supports RFC 8950 from 17.3R1 on MX and 20.1R1 on QFX (https://lists.ix-f.net/hyperkitty/list/rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net/message/GV…) those networks are struggling to get RFC8950 enabled. Juniper announces "enhanced next-hop" capability, however receiving an IPv4 prefix with two next-hops (local-link and global) will tear down the BGP session. The logged message says "bad nhop len: 32 for afi 1, safi 1" - clearly not expecting two next-hops. I do not have any Juniper to test with and this sounds like an incompatibility with RFC 8950 where both next-hops are expected as per: What are your thoughts on a problem like this? Marian -- Marian Rychtecký NIX.CZ, z.s.p.o. Mahlerovy sady 2699/1 130 00 Praha 3 Česká republika / Czech Republic

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Updated invitation: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 28 Apr 2025 15:00 - 16:00 (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 28 Apr 2025 ⋅ 15:00 – 16:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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DE-CIX Bachelor Thesis Tender for RFC8950 Working Group

by Daniel Wagner

Hey everyone, as discussed in the last meeting, DE-CIX offers a student's thesis push a bit our work in this WG. Please find the tender attached, it is not published yet. If you have any comments or ideas just let me know. Best regards, Daniel W. -- Dr. Daniel Wagner Senior Researcher ------------------------------ DE-CIX Management GmbH Lindleystr. 12, 60314 Frankfurt (Germany) phone: +49 69 1730 902 630 mobile: +49 151 5530 4818 e-mail: daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net web: www.de-cix.net ------------------------------ DE-CIX Management GmbH Executive Directors: Ivaylo Ivanov and Sebastian Seifert Trade registry: Trade registry: District court (Amtsgericht) Cologne, HRB 51135 Registered office: Lichtstr. 43i, 50825 Cologne

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