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Concluding the RFC8950-IXP Working Group

by Aleksi Suhonen

Hi, In today's meeting we decided to conclude this working group. Or at least we will stop having regular meetings, as the next meeting would have clashed with Euro-IX Forum anyway. RATIONALE We've already achieved most of what we set out to achieve. The remaining things aren't showing much progress over the past year, and the number of people in each meeting hasn't been very high either, so meeting every 6 weeks doesn't feel useful. Let's have a look at our charter[1]: > Define goals and targets of the working group: > > Raise awareness for RFC8950 for interconnection > Raise awareness for interoperability issues > Make vendors aware of bugs / improvement ideas > Create recommendations for operators > Migrate IXP related work to Euro-IX route server WG [x] We have raised awareness. [x] We've been able to get vendors to fix bugs and a few vendors have even implemented stuff based on our work. [v] We now have a few IXPs that run RFC8950 capable route servers, and we have config examples for a bunch of platforms. [x] Whatever IXP work still needs to be done, can be done at the route server WG. We've already given presentations there. I also noticed that our working group isn't even listed on the Euro-IX website, so what the hell... FUTURE We'll keep this mailing list around. We'll keep the mattermost channel[2] around as well. If anything new comes up, we can use these communication channels to talk about it. If it's significant enough, we can start having meetings again as well. The Github repo[1] will stay available, and me and Andre will probably accept pull requests if anyone has something to contribute. ACTION POINTS There are still a few outstanding action points, like I will keep working on an opportunistic implementation on the TREX route servers, and Andre is working with Huawei to verify their RFC8950 peering implementation, which is due to be released in late 2027. Some of these will result in updates on the github repo. In conclusion, it was nice to work with everybody, and I'm pretty proud of what we managed to achieve, despite all the odds against us. And see you around! Kindest Regards, [1] https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp [2] https://mattermost.nog.fi/euro-ix-forum/channels/rfc8950-wg -- +358 44 9756548 / http://www.trex.fi/ Aleksi Suhonen / TREX Regional Exchanges Oy You say "potato", I say "closest-exit."

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Meeting Notes 2026-01-12

by André Grüneberg

Dear all, These are our meeting notes from today's meeting: Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Tim, Maria, Marian, Carlos Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/12%E2%80%9001%E2%80%902026-Note…> - André: Presentation at 42nd Euro-IX forum about translation <https://www.euro-ix.net/smedia/filer_private/e5/95/e5958f23-b80b-4559-94bd-…> - Daniel: Presentation at 42nd Euro-IX forum about "route server next-hop translation" <https://www.euro-ix.net/smedia/filer_private/bd/c3/bdc325eb-36fe-4f01-a73a-…> - André: Submitted proposal for RS workshop for more details on translation - André: Huawei promised to send a NE8000 M8 for testing - Maria: Negotiated Capabilities information in filters *maybe* in Bird 3.3 (to avoid warnings if extended next-hop not enabled by peer) - Marian: TCP-AO currently has higher priority (not in stock Debian kernels) - RS Workshop: Tim, André, Ondrej and maybe Marian to join Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/12%E2%80%9001%E2%80%902026-Note…> Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/12%E2%80%9001%E2%80%902026-Note…> 2026-02-09 14:00 UTC / 14:00 GMT / 15:00 CET / 16:00 EET -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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Updated invitation with note: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 12 Jan 2026 15:00 - 16:00 (CET) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated with a note: "Due to year end challenges. :)" Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 12 Jan 2026 ⋅ 15:00 – 16:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz Christopher Rössler arnold.nipper(a)swissix.ch anton.rieger(a)de-cix.net aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Meeting notes 06‐10‐2025

by André Grüneberg

Hi all, These are the notes from today's working group meeting: Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Chris Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Chris: BCIX has enabled opportunistic RFC8950 on IPv6 route servers; 2 peers were sending IPv4 full table (introduce IXP Manager tag to disable IPv4 AF selectively) - André: Alice-LG 6.2.0 (Go) and lightwatcher 0.9.9 (Rust) have been released -- which properly support dual stack and RFC8950 ("single" table only) - André: EPF presentation <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/EPF25%20RFC8…> together with Marian; some people offered help with Huawei -> no results yet - Axu: Also no results from Huawei - André: Presentation (of almost same content) at BCIX round table - Axu: Presentation at BalticNOG; was hyped by previous panel; videos not yet available - André: Draft <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/RFC8950%20Tr…> of ideas for translation device Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Axu: Prepare slides for VNNOG <https://vnix-nog.vn/en/conference> -- add "how to use RFC8950 in core network" - André/Chris: Create PoC for translation device Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/06%E2%80%9010%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-11-17 14:00 UTC / 14:00 GMT / 15:00 CET / 16:00 EET -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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Meeting notes from today's meeting

by André Grüneberg

19‐05‐2025 Notes Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Chris, Tim, Daniel, Eric Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Daniel: Moritz is not going to join Euro-IX - Daniel: Did not manage to catch Marian - Euro-IX forum: Currently no other presentation than the one submitted by Aleksi; maybe some short-notice changes - André: No changes in Alice-LG as of yet, still in contact with Annika Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Aleksi, Daniel, Marian: Finalize slides for forum Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/19%E2%80%9005%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-07-14 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 CEST / 16:00 EEST -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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Updated invitation with note: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 19 May 2025 15:00 - 16:00 (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated with a note: "As agreed during the meeting on 28 Apr, moved before the forum." Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 19 May 2025 ⋅ 15:00 – 16:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz Christopher Rössler aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Updated invitation with note: RFC8950 working group @ Mon 28 Apr 2025 14:00 - 15:00 (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This event has been updated with a note: "Moved one-time to one hour earlier due to several members issues to join at original time." Changed: Time RFC8950 working group Monday 28 Apr 2025 ⋅ 14:00 – 15:00 Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net mr(a)nix.cz Christopher Rössler aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net Moyaze Shivji View all guest info https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Reply for rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net and view more details https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NWFvMXE2MXVpcmJ2… Your attendance is optional. ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Synced invitation: RFC8950 working group @ Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday (CET) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This email keeps the event up to date in your calendar. RFC8950 working group Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi mr(a)nix.cz rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Synced invitation: RFC8950 working group @ Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday (CEST) (rfc8950@lists.euro-ix.net)

by André Grüneberg

This email keeps the event up to date in your calendar. RFC8950 working group Every 6 weeks from 15:00 to 16:00 on Monday Central European Time - Berlin Let's revive our regular working group meeting. Let's meet in Jitsi: https://meet.iki.fi/euro-ix-rfc8950-wg Minutes in GitHub Wiki: https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki I hope the invitation via via mailinglist works. In case it does not, please let me know and I shall invite you directly. Organiser André Grüneberg andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de Guests André Grüneberg- organiser eric.nguyenduy(a)ams-ix.net mo(a)linx.net barry.odonovan(a)inex.ie daniel.wagner(a)de-cix.net aleksi.suhonen(a)trex.fi mr(a)nix.cz rfc8950(a)lists.euro-ix.net tim(a)linx.net Christopher Rössler ~~//~~ Invitation from Google Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email because you are an attendee of the event. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to send a response to the organiser, be added to the guest list, invite others regardless of their own invitation status or modify your RSVP. Learn more https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding

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Minutes of our meeting on 2024-03-10

by André Grüneberg

https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Notes 10‐03‐2025 Notes Chair: André Attendees: André, Axu, Marian, Mo, Tim, Daniel, Eric, Inrin Recap: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> - Daniel: sent student work tender draft to mailing list - to be published ~end march - Axu: Met someone interested in DE-CIX R&D projects at DKNOG - Marian: Issue with JunOS 32bit next-hop -> might be fixed with 21.1 or 23.4R2 - Axu: Gave presentation at DKNOG, positive feedback; to be also presented at NetNod, More-IP, Euro-IX forum 42 - Axu: uploaded presentation slides in repo <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/blob/main/presentations/ipv6-only-ix…> - André: Was in contact with Annika regarding Alice-LG support -> major changes necessary - Marian: Short presentation at route server workshop (also at open camp in Slovakia, faculty of informatics in Bratislava university) - Marian: potential use-case in discussion at NIX: advanced DDoS protection Action Points: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> - André: catch up with Annika to form a project Next Meeting: <https://github.com/euro-ix/rfc8950-ixp/wiki/10%E2%80%9003%E2%80%902025-Note…> 2025-04-28 13:00 UTC / 14:00 BST / 15:00 CEST / 16:00 EEST Best wishes, André -- André Grüneberg, Managing Director andre.grueneberg(a)bcix.de +49 30 2332195 42 BCIX Management GmbH Albrechtstr. 110 12103 Berlin Germany Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Jens Lietzmann, André Grüneberg Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 143581 B

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